Panyi also suggests that, in the event of a change in government, he could gain access to sensitive materials and files given his relationship with Anita Orban: “I can tell you,
obviously I’m going beyond what I could do as a journalist, but if there is a change, I can find these things out for you.
“I’ll tell Anita to look into it, what this was about. She already told me—we’ll solve it…” The woman responds jokingly: “You see, you don’t even need me, you can look into everything.”

The conversation then takes another turn, as Panyi suggests he could show the woman Peter Szijjarto’s conversations. He later realizes he does not have them with him, but takes out an iPod, which he says he began using during the Pegasus scandal to avoid being wiretapped himself.
Panyi also refers to a conversation between Sergey Lavrov and Peter Szijjarto, which he claims shows that in 2020 Szijjarto helped arrange a visit to Moscow for former Slovak Prime Minister Peter Pellegrini during the final stretch of Slovakia’s election campaign. According to Panyi’s interpretation, this “worked well” for Pellegrini, given that Slovak society is “quite pro-Russia.” Panyi had previously written about such a story in 2024.
He concludes by stating that he has access to such conversations because there are services—intelligence agencies—that “intercept these.”




















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